Sekiranya Kerajaan BN mengangap kes di atas merupakan satu-satu kes yang berlaku di negara ini maka saya akan memberikan satu lagi contoh untuk membuktikan kes tersebut bukan satu kes terpencil tetepi merupakan "a tip of the iceberg".
Pada 13 April 2008, dewan kuliah Rejimen 515 Askar Wataniah di Jalan Ampang pernah berlaku kejadian yang sama dimana golongan bukan Islam telah dipaksa untuk meniru cara sembahyang orang Islam. Menurut sumber, sekiranya pelatih enggan untuk membuat perkara yang sama maka dia akan dipaksa untuk meninggalkan kem. Selain itu, pemberi maklumat juga risau dia akan dipecat kerana membongkarkan isu ini.
Askar Wataniah merupakan pertubuhan penting dalam sistem pertahanan negara. Mereka yang menyertai askar wataniah tidak kira berasal dari mana-mana kaum, matlamatnya adalah sama iaitu mempertahankan kedaulatan negara dan memberikan sumbangan kepada negara. Malangnya, remaja yang terdiri daripada pelbagai kaum dan bercita-cita untuk mempertahankan negara telah berasa tidak senang hati kerana gangguan ke atas kepercayaan mereka daripada kumpulan fanatik agama yang wujud dalam pasukan.
Menurut statistik yang dikeluarkan pada 2006, kaum Cina hanya membentuk 5% daripada jumlah askar wataniah. Rejimen 509 Askar Wataniah yang terletak di Lebuhraya Peel merupakan satu contoh yang baik. Rejimen ini menerima penyertaan hangat daripada orang Cina. Penyertaannya adalah tidak berasalkan kaum, malah pelatih telah mengadakan road show di setiap sudut untuk menyedarkan golongan remaja bahawa kepentingan untuk mempertahankan kedaulatan negara. Kaum Cina yang menyertai askar wataniah juga terdiri daripada golongan mahasiswa dan golongan profesional.
Program askar wataniah telah memberikan masa yang fleksiber kepada para penyerta untuk mengalakkan penyertaan mereka ke dalam perkhidmatan askar wataniah. Mereka akan dilatih pada hujung minggu. Latihan rekrut adalah lebih kurang seperti latihan sebenar malah mereka juga diberikan gaji. Peserta boleh memilih Latihan Tempatan atau Latihan Lanjutan apabila latihan rekrut tamat. Mereka akan dibahagikan kepada latihan ketenteraan yang berlainan seperti Kor Armour, Rejiman Askar Jurutera, Rejimen Semboyan dan sebagainya.
Malangnya, askar wataniah yang tidak membezakan warna kulit, terkenal dengan tindakan tatatertib yang ketat dan reputasi yang baik, kini reputasinya telah dicemari oleh dasar agama Kerajaan BN. Situasi yang berlaku kini adalah bertentangan dengan Perlembagaan Persekutuan yang menjanjikan kebebasan beragama.
Saya meminta Menteri Pertahanan, Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi menjelaskan mengapa perkara sebegini boleh berlaku dibawah kepimpinannya. Pada masa yang sama saya juga meminta Menteri Pertahanan untuk menjelaskan kepada golongan bukan Islam di seluruh negara mengenai soalan mengapa pelajar bukan Islam telah dipaksa untuk membuat cara sembahyang orang Islam yang berlaku pada 13 April 2008 di dewan kuliah Rejimen 515 Askar Wataniah serta memberikan identiti pelatih yang terlibat dalam kes tersebut.
Ahli Parlimen Bakri
Er Teck Hwa
30.09.2010
YB, firstly to put our armed forces issue in context of what US Forces doing is irrelevant and none of our business. Have u ever be involved in any of the former regimental event? If no don't just make your accusation based on logic!
ReplyDelete2ndly to put an example of Christian US forces personnel forcing a muslim army forces personnel perfoming christian prayers is such degrading as your former allegation on our ATM. I'm talking in context of such organisation who has SOP and clear procedure. Don't simply make logical rule to uphold your stand.
Before u urself make allegation on 'dipaksa berdoa secara org Islam' I am assuming u urself never involved in any of Armed Forces activity in particular Wataniah, right. U are only allege on hearsay and logic. Do u first aware why we perform prayer (doa) in such manner?! Do u understand what is uniformity in Armed Forces? Don't u know in ATM, discipline and uniformity are essential to groom good soldiers for the country. If by performing doa (in which menadah tangan in uniformity) can be considered a sin and against anyone who perform it, I simply put u in that respect of disrespecting the armed forces code which ur urself don't uphold thus simply put your 'Taat Setia' to Agong in question becoz he is the Chief command of our Armed Forces
U see, berdoa dalam tentera has been practice ever since my ROTU days in university. I hv many chinese and Indian cadet officer squad who never bother about such matter back then becoz they understand berdoa is not the whole crux of any event. For example, during commisioning, in a kawad pentauliahan, each of everyone of us akan menadah tangan in uniformity to pray for the King health etc. Do u want in a commissioning event, those non muslim just remain quiet and held their head low during prayers? Doesn't it look odd in a army event to do that and again disrespecting the King who came and honour your commision.
What's wrong w u ppl? Suddenly after March 2008, you want to be populist and take this issue as your centre to spread more hatred. In addition, u get such organisation as Armed Forces to be involved whereby the stand of Armed Forces is unquestionable 'Taat Setia' nya kepada Raja dan negara? Where's your sense of belonging to thid country, YB?
If u are against berdoa in ATM, why not u also complaining about 'bertafakur' and meletakkan kalungan bunga di Tugu Negara every ATM day, I m sure that is against Islamic preaching. Why double standard?!
Yes, pre 1990s the army went thru 'zaman jahiliah' even liquor were served in Mess night but during the latter era, we hv introduce Kor Agama Angkatan Tentera (KAGAT) to cleanse all the wrongdoing in army. Of course it was never to islamisation the ATM organisation but to give 'soul' to the respective forces. Pls ask DSAI what he did back then when he was in cabinet.
I can question u in many ways but that will not stop me for saying u hv go overboard re the issue. The 515 AW commandant is a chinese. Maybe u can first refer to him. For me if anybody cannot simply follow order in such organisation as ATM, u never ought to be there. Shame as well to those who make complaint on this very petty issue.
Since You have repeat the same comment in Chinese and Malay version of my blog, I will paste my original comments here:
ReplyDeleteDear Mohsein,
I can see your afford to question me why I raise this issue. And as a people representative, regardless where you come from, I will try to respond to all your comments.
And I have very little time to sit down and respond to any comments immediately. But you are most welcome to discuss a single topic at a time. You can write any so-call "sensitive" issue to me and I will try me best to discuss with you provided with the condition that you have to keep open-minded and avoid any impolite words.
Here you go:
"YB, firstly to put our armed forces issue in context of what US Forces doing is irrelevant and none of our business. Have u ever be involved in any of the former regimental event? If no don't just make your accusation based on logic!"
So, it looks like you don't follow this simple logic. Instead of using US Forces for instance, I can just simply use any non-muslim country as my example to show that what happen if I treat you in the same manner.
Secondly, you said that only an military veteran can criticize any of the former regimental event? have you ever became a prime minister? If I follow your logic of thinking, only less then 0.005% of our local politician can criticize him as we will never have chance to become a prime minister. Is that what you mean here?
"2ndly to put an example of Christian US forces personnel forcing a muslim army forces personnel perfoming christian prayers is such degrading as your former allegation on our ATM. I'm talking in context of such organisation who has SOP and clear procedure. Don't simply make logical rule to uphold your stand."
So, show me what SOP you have for this issue. Show me the SOP in Black and White stated that forcing non-muslim trainee to perform Islamic prayer is part of the Military Code.
"Before u urself make allegation on 'dipaksa berdoa secara org Islam' I am assuming u urself never involved in any of Armed Forces activity in particular Wataniah, right. U are only allege on hearsay and logic. Do u first aware why we perform prayer (doa) in such manner?! Do u understand what is uniformity in Armed Forces? Don't u know in ATM, discipline and uniformity are essential to groom good soldiers for the country. If by performing doa (in which menadah tangan in uniformity) can be considered a sin and against anyone who perform it, I simply put u in that respect of disrespecting the armed forces code which ur urself don't uphold thus simply put your 'Taat Setia' to Agong in question becoz he is the Chief command of our Armed Forces."
Yes, you may follow your believe and to be a good Muslim, I have no objection.
Seen like you have some diffuclty to understand a very simple example I have illustrated it to you in my last message. Then, let me follow your logic to your convenience. You said: I against performing prayer in the army camp, so, I disrespect our King.
OK, check back my statement, and try to figure it out if I state that "I against berdoa in any army camp". Copy the sentence show it to me.
"U see, berdoa dalam tentera has been practice ever since my ROTU days in university. "
The answer is wrong. I do not know what kind of training have you been going through in your training. You may prove it to me if every preserve army camp had been practicing this at all times.
"I hv many chinese and Indian cadet officer squad who never bother about such matter back then becoz they understand berdoa is not the whole crux of any event. "
So, if someone you know does not express to you their thinking does not means that you can assume everybody is comfortable. Furthermore, this photograph and information is provided by a non-Muslim Wataniah and I am conveying exactly what he and his colleagues try to express.
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"For example, during commisioning, in a kawad pentauliahan, each of everyone of us akan menadah tangan in uniformity to pray for the King health etc. Do u want in a commissioning event, those non muslim just remain quiet and held their head low during prayers? Doesn't it look odd in a army event to do that and again disrespecting the King who came and honour your commision."
ReplyDeleteThat is nothing wrong to stand up and held down their head and keep quiet during a commissioning event. So, now you try to suggest that everyone should pray for the King health for sake of uniformity. And you use the word "uniformity" and not "sincerity". Is "uniformity" part of your version of religious teaching? No, it does not happen to mine. My religion teach me to treat everyone equality and sincerity. As a Buddhist, I will choose to place hands palm-to-palm and even chanting mantra to worship our King. We pray with sincerity and not for uniformity nor symbolically.
"What's wrong w u ppl? Suddenly after March 2008, you want to be populist and take this issue as your centre to spread more hatred. In addition, u get such organisation as Armed Forces to be involved whereby the stand of Armed Forces is unquestionable 'Taat Setia' nya kepada Raja dan negara? Where's your sense of belonging to thid country, YB?"
You can't differential between an issue and a publicity. For your sense of logic, questioning a trainer in an army camp to force their non-Muslim trainees to perform Islamic prayer is dilsoyal to the King and the Country? Before you define your version of loyalty, please tell me which part of the Federal Constitution can stop me to rise above question? Do I question your belief?
"If u are against berdoa in ATM, why not u also complaining about 'bertafakur' and meletakkan kalungan bunga di Tugu Negara every ATM day, I m sure that is against Islamic preaching. Why double standard?!"
So, if you are complaining some decoration during ATM day is against Islamic preaching, you may have your freedom to express your view so that it won't "confuse" you to become unislamic. I am talking about do not force non-muslim army officers to perfrom something not inside their belief system. How do you relate two different context and say that is double standard?
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"Yes, pre 1990s the army went thru 'zaman jahiliah' even liquor were served in Mess night but during the latter era, we hv introduce Kor Agama Angkatan Tentera (KAGAT) to cleanse all the wrongdoing in army. Of course it was never to islamisation the ATM organisation but to give 'soul' to the respective forces. Pls ask DSAI what he did back then when he was in cabinet."
ReplyDeleteShow it to me which article in KAGAT stated that non-muslim militery officers have to follow this rule. To apply certain rule to make Muslim military officers to comply to Islam is a positive move from spirituous point of view. That I agree.
"I can question u in many ways but that will not stop me for saying u hv go overboard re the issue. The 515 AW commandant is a chinese. Maybe u can first refer to him. For me if anybody cannot simply follow order in such organisation as ATM, u never ought to be there. Shame as well to those who make complaint on this very petty issue. "
So, come back to this very simple fact, do I stop any Muslim to stop perform Islamic prayer in any occasion? I am asking why a trainer ask his non-Muslim trainees to perfrom Islamic prayer in the militery training. Simple and clear. But inside your mind, this simple and clear argument had been distorted and become "I stop everyone perform prayer in the army camp" and this is an act of disrespect to the King.
Since I have make my explanation clear enough for a normal human being to understand. If you want this "debate" to proceed, answer me this very simple question: "Is it right or wrong to ask a non-Muslim to perform Ismanic prayer during any official or non-official event and show me which part of our laws or regulation have stated so. "
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dont talk about any black n white...the answer is in the badge itself...can u check ? the one that u weear upon ur head?
ReplyDeletein army or any uniform bodies,orders is to obey, command and do, if they cannot do simplest of the order ..there a corporal punishment it is simple as that .no race no religious side of it any military all over the world.it is not right or wrong in asking but it is about of having responsibility in executing the order itself.this is army this military this is police and it is always have been.regimental as it is regardless of ur skin,ur religious belief and ur race.
u r from bakri rite? im from muar also and i dont like rocket furthermore, why dont you complain direct to tengku ibrahim himself..
dont ask what a nation can do for u ,what can u give to the nation instead of try to raise stupid issues n gaining political popularity i assumed u never be in the uniform body except than scout or pbsm.